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03 January 2014 @ 12:13 pm
Letter to the Board of Holy Ghost Preparatory School  
To Whom This Concerns at Holy Ghost Preparatory School:

In an age where right is wrong and wrong is right and the whole world discriminates against you for obeying God’s Word, I have no doubt you will receive much hate mail for firing a certain Mr. Michael Griffin. I just wanted to be one of the few who took the time to encourage you to stand your ground instead of succumbing to the pressure to reinstate him. It is completely within your rights to terminate his employment as his contract clearly states that he must follow the teachings of the Roman Catholic church and the Roman Catholic church reveres and upholds the Bible as Truth which teaches that homosexuality is an abomination.

Obviously, everyone messes up once in a while because we’re all sinners, but to habitually live a gay lifestyle is completely disregarding God’s laws for living a righteous life. What I can’t understand is how he was hired in the first place. I can only imagine the person who hired him hadn’t the foggiest notion that he was gay or he probably never would have been hired.

Pope Francis does not get to change God’s Word that always has been and forever will be in favor of the union between husband and wife and never for two people of the same sex to be united in marriage. I commend you for what I’m sure was a very difficult decision and I wanted to drop you a little note to say that it’s okay to stand firm in your decision. The world will call you “hateful,” “intolerant,” and “bigoted,” but you must stand firm against the schemes of the devil. I love how your mission statement says you're committed to cultivating "moral, spiritual, and ethical values." I feel the actions you've taken concerning Mr. Griffin maintain your educational philosophy. You need to have positive, godly, Christ-loving role models for the students in your school, not people who flagrantly disrespect God and His Word. Well done. The students, faculty, and staff will be in my prayers today as well as Mr. Griffin.
vickivicksterg on January 4th, 2014 02:25 am (UTC)
I agree with you. They teach standards and they to have teachers who agree with and live the life style they teach. Also, I feel that Christians are being more tolerant of gays. I feel that they are accepting their lifestyle more. I accept the person and love them, but will never agree with it. It goes against what God stands for.

This reminds me of a woman who was fired from a Christian school for getting pregnant before marriage. If you work in a Christian school they teach certain things. Don't have sex till marriage
♪.¸¸.*´¯`*.¸♥ ৡ.†.Dannielle.†.ৡ ♥¸.*´¯`*.¸¸.♪: Rapture000sundancer000 on January 4th, 2014 03:32 am (UTC)
Right!!! If this were a secular school, I would sign the petition to get him his job back.
vickivicksterg on January 4th, 2014 12:58 pm (UTC)
Now if the woman was raped and had gotten pregnant then it would be wrong for her to be fired. I went to a Christian school and if of you were a student and pregnant then you had to leave, but if you were raped then you had to talk about your experience in front of the school, and I never agreed with that. Being raped is hard enough, but having to relive it in front of everyone is wrong
♪.¸¸.*´¯`*.¸♥ ৡ.†.Dannielle.†.ৡ ♥¸.*´¯`*.¸¸.♪: Rapture000sundancer000 on January 4th, 2014 10:45 pm (UTC)
Oh my gosh, are you serious?! I would never go to a school that FORCED women to talk about getting raped in front of the whole assembly. The petition talked about how teachers at that school were divorced and remarried and how that was also against the Roman Catholic church and used that as an attack on the school and how they're singling out homosexuality. ACTUALLY, it's not. Homosexuality is NEVER okay but sometimes divorce is permissible. Say for example if your husband cheated on you- then you are completely within God's will to divorce him and marry someone else. My husband (to my knowledge) never actually stuck his dick in another woman... does that mean that he didn't actually commit adultery? No. He was emotionally in love with another woman and chased after her hoping to pursue a romantic relationship with her after he left me. He also left his faith which, according to 1 Corinthians 7, gives me permission to let him go. I shall treat him as an unbeliever since he's acting like one.
vickivicksterg on January 5th, 2014 03:46 am (UTC)
I'm so sorry. I really wish this never happens to you. You're such a nice person and it sucks it happened. I do pray that God will either restore your marriage completely or that God will bring a great man into your life. Praying for you always. Love you
vickivicksterg on January 6th, 2014 01:59 am (UTC)
It's something I remember from my student handbook. Maybe things have changed since then. But that would be wrong.
Janie-Bugchangeling0203 on January 6th, 2014 01:23 am (UTC)
That is heinous. That's actually punishing the girl for being raped. "You had sex? Oh, it was rape? Convince us it was rape by telling us ALLLLLL about it! In front of everyone! Relive it or you're a dirty whore." I went to a Catholic school. There were rumors a girl my year got pregnant. I don't know if it was true, but I do know none of my teachers or the administrators would punish a girl for being pregnant by taking away her education. My school had definite anti-abortion sentiments. If you take away someone's education you take away their ability to find work and to provide for their child. You isolate them from their friends. You cause a rift between her and her family, if her family hasn't already pushed her away. Hm, friendless, no family, no job, no money, no education... like that won't convince that girl that the only way to get her life back is by terminating the pregnancy.
between the pavement and the stars: doctor who: flawless bbs impossible plansaintcheney on January 4th, 2014 02:14 pm (UTC)
I do agree that they're within their rights to terminate a contract if an employee at a Catholic school isn't following the teaching of the Catholic church, but this is so angry.
Janie-Bugchangeling0203 on January 6th, 2014 01:19 am (UTC)
They didn't have a right to police his private life, which is what they did by firing him. His right to privacy was violated. Unfortunately, this is a private organization and I don't know if this is right or wrong in view of the courts. Morally, I think it was wrong to fire someone because of something they do in their private life if that thing is consensual, legal, and causes no harm to others. You can argue it harms their relationship with God, but that's between them and God. So really by firing him they're not only being bigoted (they rejected him based on a lifestyle) and intolerant (they did not tolerate him being gay), and they're also determining how they think his relationship with God should be which is a profoundly personal matter. It wasn't for them to pass judgement.

You could say, "It causes harm by telling kids it's okay to be gay!" We both know where either of us stand on that issue, but for sake of argument let's say gay is wrong. It DOESN'T do either. If a teacher brings his sexuality into the classroom that's an entirely different can of worms. A teacher's sex life and personal life should never be discussed with minors or students. So if you bring me evidence that he was talking about his marital issues or his sex life with kids I'll say yeah, he should be fired. But if he didn't and if he was professional and if he was good at his job then they were wrong to fire him.
madamguillotine: glowing pony for whitney!madamguillotine on January 6th, 2014 03:14 am (UTC)
However, if you sign a contract saying you won't do something in your private life, and then do it in your private life... it's fair to be fired. I served two years in AmeriCorps, and during that time I could not volunteer for political candidates or do drugs. These are private life issues, but they could've fired me from AmeriCorps if I had done them, because it would've been against the policies I had pledged to uphold. Same with the Duck Dynasty guy. He could hold his beliefs, but the company had the right to fire him if they felt he wasn't representing a viewpoint they could support.

Anyway, again, he has a right to his private life, but he can't expect to work for an organization that requires him to live a certain way sexually. Same goes for a Catholic who wants to work in a private school dedicated to atheist principles.
Janie-Bugchangeling0203 on January 6th, 2014 07:25 pm (UTC)
I don't know much about the case - did he sign such a contract?
between the pavement and the stars: doctor who: flawless bbs impossible plansaintcheney on January 7th, 2014 02:54 pm (UTC)
I think working for a religious school, it's likely. I worked for a church and I had to sign some wonky contracts, and they eventually fired me and refused to give reasons even though they could have fallen back on those contracts (I didn't give to the church, etc). I have loads of sympathy for anyone in that situation but at the end of the day, I think people need to think more about signing a contract that gives their employer that much control, if they aren't comfortable with them using it.
madamguillotine: glowing pony for whitney!madamguillotine on January 7th, 2014 10:34 pm (UTC)
Yes. And while that power can be abused, I generally respect and support a business or organization's right to make policies that reflect their principles. For instance, at my job we are supposed to refuse to serve customers who try to order while talking on their cell phones. I don't personally care if they do, but it's against the atmosphere the company (a small family bakery) is trying to create, and it's nice to have the right to say, no, I don't want to serve you, and I don't have to. There are plenty of places where you can talk on your cell phone, but ours is not one of them. Like Luke's.

Anyway, rules and boundaries can give places (Catholic schools, bakeries, whatever) their character.

Edited at 2014-01-07 10:34 pm (UTC)
beka: Luke & Lorelaibabimae on January 6th, 2014 06:30 pm (UTC)
It really inspires me that you wrote this. I agree with you and I think it's wonderful of you to encourage the staff at that school. As to the person who commented about his privacy being violated, you do make a good point. However, it kind of misses the point. I attended a private Christian school where students were required to sign a code of conduct to be accepted. It outlined a list of things the school prohibited, and you agreed to abide by them or be disciplined accordingly. Some of these included premarital sex and pregnancy. I have to admit, part of me isn't in favor of such things, but they DO have a point. They want to create an environment with Christian values, and you can't do that with a student body who blatantly disrespects the rules. My school wasn't invasive and didn't probe into their student's private lives, but if a situation or event came to their attention, they addressed it. I imagine the teachers also had to sign something similar and agree to live a lifestyle in accordance with the school's standards. A religious school exists not just to educate their students academically, but spiritually as well. It is important for them to have leaders that live a godly lifestyle as an example to their students, and to support the values they agreed to uphold. I may not always agree about how certain situations are handled, but the individuals involved in these sort of matters know beforehand what the consequences will be. If they do not want to abide by the code of conduct, they are free to work at another school. No one is forcing them to teach at that particular school. I imagine if he were heterosexual and found to be living a promiscuous lifestyle, he would have been disciplined for that as well.
Julielivepoetically on January 10th, 2014 03:25 am (UTC)

Here's my hang up...unless they discovered that this guy was living with his partner, they overstepped their bounds and frankly shouldn't have been digging around his personal life enough to know anyway.

If this guy were dating a woman and they were not living together and she remained unpregnant, I bet there's a very high probability everyone at this school would assume they were not having sex. Yet because it somehow got out that he's dating a man, it's okay to assume they know for a fact he's sleeping with this man. Why is it okay to presume to know what sexual choices an employee is making if you have no proof?

There are a lot of Christians out there doing "everything but", or even having oral and/or anal sex because they don't think of those things as "real" sex, and hardly anyone looks twice at straight couples within the Christian community. You never hear about a straight man being fired because he was found to be having sex with his girlfriend and he signed a contract saying he wouldn't. You hear about women and gays being singled out and fired from jobs almost on a daily basis.

I am sick and tired of the elevation of the Straight White Male within the Christian community. Good teachers are hard to come by and if they were that concerned about the example this employee was setting, they could simply require ALL employees to refrain from discussing their sex lives with their students.....wait. Don't schools usually do that anyway?

So it actually doesn't have to be a problem. This contract, I'm guessing, leaves a lot at the school's discretion, which enables them to enforce a double standard if they choose to. And I bet they do. How many other male teachers' sex lives have they taken the time to investigate? It may be legal, but the whole thing seems pretty shady to me.